The Perfect Album Side Podcast
The Perfect Album Side Podcast
PAS Single: Motley Crue Can’t Crash Here, But Hootie Can
Windham & Steve weigh the moments that launched rock into the mainstream, from Elvis and the Beatles on TV to Woodstock, Michael Jackson’s moonwalk, and the rise of digital streaming. Then we stress-test rock mythology with the “couch test,” deciding which bands would make good house guests.
• Elvis and the Beatles making TV a rock megaphone
• Woodstock as the festival blueprint and its lasting imprint
• MJ’s Motown 25 moonwalk and live spectacle escalation
• Digital music’s access vs ritual tradeoffs
• Bad Company tribute highlights and cover craft
• New supergroup buzz featuring Rucker, Mills, and more
• The couch test for bands: chaos vs courtesy
• From Motley Crue to Hootie: who gets a yes
• KISS side-roads, nostalgia, and pinball lore
• Tease: building the perfect album side of 2011
One idea. Six songs. Infinite possibilities...
Yeah, there there would be a motorcycle and a goat in your living room, and you wouldn't know which one it was okay to ride.
SPEAKER_00:Welcome to the perfect album side. One idea, six songs, infinite possibilities.
SPEAKER_02:My name is Steve. His name is Windham. I say this a lot on this, but we're back.
SPEAKER_01:We're back. We are so back right now. I miss that. I missed the opening. I miss the fervor and the passion. Fervor. Glad to be back.
SPEAKER_03:Nice 25 cent word, fervor. You know, it occurred to me that although every time we uh we record an episode of the Perfect Down Baside podcast, it's often, you know, sometimes we do multiple a week, and then sometimes we go two months and we haven't done one, and then we but we always say, We're back, and oh, it's good to see you, and talking all this stuff. But for the majority of our listeners, from what I have deduced, is that most of them get on a run, like you do with any podcast. You start listening and you just listen to them back to back to back. So they're just hearing us day after day. They listen to an episode on Monday, they listen to an episode on Tuesday, on Wednesday. There aren't weeks or months that have passed since they've last heard our voices. So we always were like, hey, yay, we're back, and also like, but to them, we for the most part, we've never missed a day for most of our listeners.
SPEAKER_01:Well uh thoughts, yeah. There's so many things I love about this episode, so many things I love about our listeners, the global reach. But I think one of the pieces of our episode of our podcast is that it's benjible.
SPEAKER_03:Benjible, what a bengeable another great word, fervor and benjable.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I I'm just getting started. Goodness gracious. But you know what I mean? Like this is I I think what we've built uh together is something that people can listen to more than once, and they can they can listen to two or three episodes at a time, and they hear one and they're like, Oh, I gotta hear the next one. And you know, we have our listeners to thank for that.
SPEAKER_03:We recently got a piece of fan mail from a listener who said that he stumbled onto our podcast by accident and then he he liked it so much that he he he just downloaded all 89 episodes. Speaking of which, happy 90th episode to you, my friend.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that means so much. Uh my I think 90, what 90th anniversary? What's that? The paper mache anniversary, the particle board?
SPEAKER_03:The the ash, ashy residue, ash, some sort of resin. Yeah. Some sort of liquid. Uh yeah, happy 90th episode, which which reminds me, you know, we we're coming up on our on our 100th, our century episode, uh, which is going to be very special. A lot of big things coming with that one that we'll get into later. Um, but for today, this is a this is a perfect album side single. This is a side A, side B. We're not building a perfect album side, but we got topics to talk about. We got a on this single, we got a side A, which is brought to you by Window Bridgeon, and we got a side B brought to you by myself and uh and I and neither one of us know what those topics are.
SPEAKER_01:So much mystery going into whether it's always the the full EP, yeah, uh, or the full record perfect album side, or if it's one of our singles episodes, there's so much mystery intrigue.
SPEAKER_03:These these these episodes scare me because I'm always concerned that you're gonna bring up a topic which I know nothing about, and I'll just sit here in silence for eight minutes.
SPEAKER_01:I I today's topic, and we'll get to it in just a minute, uh, on my side A, is I'm gonna lead you a little bit. I'm not gonna, I'm not just gonna throw something out there and expect you to you know chat GPT it. Um uh chat scs it stone cold Steve. Oh nice. So yeah, I I I'm gonna help you out with this one because this is a big one. But uh yeah, I I love it. Well, love it.
SPEAKER_03:Before we get before we before we do, before we do, uh you and I have both gotten into uh a record in the last week or so. I really think in the last few days, correct uh this is uh the the the the the bad company trivia record uh can't get enough. Um and uh I'll play a little bit of it while we're talking about it, but um I'm uh so far I'm loving this record. What do you think? Tell us about it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I I absolutely love it. I was a bad company fan growing up. Um I I don't know anyone growing up that didn't have 10 from 6, which is their greatest hits record, their 10 hits from 6 records. Yeah. Um as you and I talked about before, bad company. I mean, do you still hear I mean just on this record one of the 30 records? There's eight there's ten total stopped. Eight of the one of them is not bad company, but it's all up there is right now. But eight of the nine bad company stopped on this record still get an incredible amount of radio play. That's pretty amazing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean these phones are almost 50 years old, I would think.
SPEAKER_01:Uh uh Call of Fame is not the shirt.
SPEAKER_03:So if you guys haven't heard uh this record, uh it's called um I don't know if the name is called it, can't get enough attribute to bad company, and it's got uh Hailstorm, Hardy, uh Splash, and Miles Kennedy and the conspirators, Blackberry Smoke, or Harry Destrut, Charlie Crockett, Dirty Honey, uh Blackstone Cherry, Death Leopard, and and the pretty reckless all uh contributing songs to this record. And I'll tell you, if you don't you talked about how these songs still get airplay on the radio now, the cool thing is hearing these done by different bands, like any tribute album, the songs are so good. I mean, they're just so well written, such great songs, catchy melodies, awesome stuff. And to hear somebody else's take on a band that I like, um just a really good record. I would I would recommend it. It gets my stamp of approval, but I think yours. It it totally does.
SPEAKER_01:I love listening to this. Now, a lot of the songs on this tribute record sound like the black like the bad company version. And I'll I'm a huge Blackberry Smoke fan, I know you are too, but run with the pack running with the pack, run with the pack as it's on this record, it's that's got a bad company feel to it, right? But other versions, shooting star by Hailstorm, I think is a little bit different than the the shooting star we're used to hearing from uh the straight shooter record. So I think they mix it up a little bit. Um, I like the Pretty Reckless, that's a band that I've recently listened to a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:But I thought Def Leppard's version of Seagull was crazy good. And I was I was really as I looked at the the the track lifting, I was like, oh, Def Leppard doing seagull, that's not gonna be great. I was wrong. It's fantastic.
SPEAKER_01:I think it's the best one on here. Yeah, I I think I agree with you. And Joe Elliott sounds great. Now, I don't know what uh production and recording studio tricks are being in play. Maybe none, but he sounds phenomenal on that song, and I was really impressed with it. He really does.
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah, I'm sure there's a one-armed drummer joke in there somewhere, but I'm not gonna use it. Oh, Steve. Too soon? I maybe, probably. It's been 40 years. Maybe we could let it go. Let's talk about side A of today's.
SPEAKER_01:I think we have one more thing to talk about. Oh, talk to me. What do you got, man? Well, I I think you and I stumbled upon by accident. There's that phrase again, that we are both gonna be seeing a relatively new band, not together and not in the same venue, but two, but uh the one day after the other. Um and that's that's this band called Owl, owl, owl, owl, owl, owl. Can't say that. Owl, owl, owl. That's a hard one to say that. And this is a uh kind of a a super group of sorts. It's got uh dairy cructor, hooky in the blue fish.
SPEAKER_03:The throatie of hoodie in the blue fish. I know he hates that, but that's what it's called. Dairy's crupper.
SPEAKER_01:Mike Mill of Riemann. Fantastic. And Steve Corner, the original drummer for the Black Cross and Stereophonic. And Stereophonic of the original and Trigger 50.
SPEAKER_03:That's the trick. Talked about yesterday. I mean, this this band right here, Howl Owl, Howl, combines REM, your favorite, the Black Crows, my favorite, and then of course Hootie, everyone's favorite, everyone's favorite, or 19 million Americans' favorite, you know?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm excited to see this show. You mentioned, uh, I think a little bit ago, that you were gonna see them in Athens on uh Friday night, and then just a few days ago, uh, we got invited to go see them in Atlanta the next night. Fantastic. So I cannot wait to see this show. To me, I'll tell you why I'm excited. You and I saw a show that I thought was still one of the best shows I've seen. It was the Black Crows Chris and Rich Robinson tribute to REM's initial record, very first record called Chronic Town. It was the 50th anniversary or 40th anniversary, excuse me.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not 40th anniversary of Chronic Town, correct.
SPEAKER_01:And and there was a bunch of famous faces that played REM music all night. And one of those was Darius Rucker. He played I Believe off uh Life's Rich Pageant. And uh so you we we kind of saw something getting started a little bit. Like, wait a minute, this is too good just to be a one-night thing. Uh, and now we're seeing maybe the outcome of that is hey, well, let's let's try to do something, let's have some fun with this.
SPEAKER_03:It's amazing how much uh of the music that we like is incestuous. The players. Yeah. You know, they all kind of hang in the same circles and end up playing on records together. And um, that's a cool thing about music, and I dig it. Me too. All right, now, now, yes, can we do that? All right, you said you brought side A. I have no idea what's about to come out of your head, but I'm very excited. Give me side A of the perfect album side single for today.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, by the way, before we get to that, it was we we'll never do, we'll never do side A.
SPEAKER_03:Let's we're not getting to this episode, but today is the 70th anniversary of uh Marty McFly arriving uh to Doc's house. You asking about the flux capacitor. Magnificent bastard. Wow, what a poll. November 5th, 1955, 70 years ago today. So hats off to uh to Doc Brown and Marty McFly. And the whole crew at Back to the Future. Um, that was today.
SPEAKER_01:So I wonder what I wanted to let me say on behalf of all of our listeners around the world, hashtag save the clock tower. Yeah, absolutely. Um well that's enough of that. What do you got? That's amazing. Great poll, folks. He's not the best in the business for nothing. Um, we're gonna be talking today, and I said this, I want to give you my topic, my question, and I'm interested in hearing. Uh I'm gonna give you a couple choices too. This is gonna be multiple choice. Oh boy, but I'm talking about most impactful moment in rock music. I'm gonna give you some choices because that's a big topic just to throw out there. I know how you like to convince it. Yep. And you can either say, hey, one of these things is correct. I think I'm gonna ride that train, or you can say, hey, here's one that you didn't consider. And I want to talk about it a little bit. And I have an idea of what one is. All right, but um it and so a couple of things to get you thinking here. Uh, and I'm talking transcending moments that took this idea of rock music that hadn't existed and moved it to something else. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I've got a few I've got a few events in my head. I'm not sure. Hit me, hit me. No, no, I want they might be your multiple choices. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, no cheating, like, oh yeah, I was gonna say that one.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not cheating. I mean, I like the fact that you've accused me of cheating three seconds into the topic, but okay.
SPEAKER_01:It's like that the uh Chris Farley episode of Sarant Live where the teacher was like, Does anybody know who the Germans were fighting in World War II? And the teacher goes, France, and Chris Farley raises his hand, was like, I'm gonna I was gonna say France. I was gonna say France. Uh I got us off chopping topic there. Let's impact for a moment. Here, here's some things to get some the mental juices going. I'm ready. Beatles on Ed Sullivan. Sure. Uh Nirvana, nevermind, slash grunge movement of the early 90s. Okay. Next. Woodstock. Yeah. Uh Rock and Roll Death. Hendricks, Cobain, Morrison. Now, that's not one single time period. I get that, but you know what I mean. Uh, and the rise of digital music. Um how am I doing so far? Any am I in the orbit of what you're doing?
SPEAKER_03:Are you looking for me to to uh to say one of those things is the most impactful thing on rock and roll music?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'd like to see if if one of those stands out as being a transcending moment of rock music more than more than another one. Like, for instance, I'll say the fact that the Beatles went on Ed Sullivan and spotlighted rock and roll and put rock and roll in a celebrity moment. I would say that's about as big a deal for music and rock music specifically.
SPEAKER_03:I I I would think, um, I mean, you know, some of those those deaths, I you know, I don't count that. I don't think that that the grunge, I mean, that's just a that's a movement. To me, it's no bigger than disco or glam music. It's just a movement within rock and roll. Uh the the grunge movement. So I I I would go back even further than the Beatles, though, and and think Elvis Presley uh being on television and only being filmed from the waist up. I mean, I think that that those events really put rock and roll truly on the map is Elvis Presley. Okay. Um Elvis Presley, Chuck Barry, uh Little Richard, uh Great Balls of Fire. I can't think of his name. Jerry Lewis. Jerry Lee Lewis. I mean, those guys uh appearing on television in 1955, uh, to me is is really the what took it from you know a birth of rock and roll to oh my god, rock and roll is the biggest thing in the world. And then with the British invasion and the Beatles coming over, yeah, that those things are what put rock music on the map. And my does that answer your question? Is that what you're asking me? Yeah, I mean Can I phone a friend? Can we eliminate two of them?
SPEAKER_01:Um I I think I think you're right. I I think I think we're saying I think we're saying a lot of the same thing. I you know, I I think I think the Beatles and the reaction of the Beatles, I think Elvis, I think he was on Ed Sullivan. We talked about this uh on one of our episodes, where I think it was what in the 50s? I think 55. Okay. I think that to me, I think that caught everybody off guard. Like, what am I looking at? Hip shaking, yeah, uh, very uh very enticing. Whatever what there's a word there, I can't remember what it is, very flirting. Gyrating, gyrating, gyration? Hip gyration, caught the world by storm, a lot like the internet. Uh, but I think by the time the Beatles came around, I think that opened to me, it opened up the eyes to America, like, okay, there's something else out there that we don't know about, and it's this just the reaction of everybody, the girls coming off the plane, even uh, but but that Ed Sullivan moment was okay, we are in an entirely new world where artists, musicians were considered maybe sex symbols, right? It put the element of rock music celebritizing musicians on TV, uh almost in a worship type setting. To me, I look at the Beatles and said that change that was a trans the most transcending moment in rock music. Um now, digital would be up there too. Now, I'm not discounting that because I think from an accessibility standpoint, uh everybody's downloading music, everybody's streaming music, everybody's got however many songs. Uh I can't tell you how many times you and I have been on a podcast and you've put a song on your on your record, perfect album side, and I've said, I need to download that just like that. The instantaneous access of digital music, I think, has been a big deal as well.
SPEAKER_03:No doubt about it. Uh, from Napster to LimeWire to streaming music now, I mean, the instant accessibility. Uh, that being said, I don't mean to sound old, but it to me it's also taken away a lot of the the romantic aspect. And I don't mean uh male-female romance, I just mean the the romance of going to a record store and flipping through records and buying one and bringing it home and looking at the artwork and reading the lyrics and taking the vinyl out or the cassette out of the CD out for the first time. I I loved that experience. And you know, in some ways I missed that, and I'm glad that vinyl is back. Uh, because I still do that. For example, my eight-year-old daughter, there's nothing she wanted more in the world than uh a vinyl copy of Taylor Swift's new album. Now we don't ever listen to it on vinyl, we always stream it, but she wanted the physical copy, and so I have it. I have it in my house and I dig that and I and I get it. Um I'll tell you one I think that we're overlooking. Um, obviously, Ed Sullivan and and and Elvis uh on um excuse me, the Beatles and Elvis on Ed Sullivan. Uh I I think Michael Jackson on Motown 25 is right up there with everyone in the world who was alive at that moment was paying attention. And everything changed the moment that dude did the moonwalk that night.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's a big deal. That's something we've talked about before. I don't disagree. I think to me, you know, for Michael Jackson, I think uh that was a moment where he basically separated himself from the adolescent position he had in the Jackson 5. Yeah. I to me, that's when everybody said, okay, he's not the lead, he's not the little cute kid from the Jackson 5 anymore. This guy's his own artist. I think what he just put the moonwalk on display, that was about as big a deal as I can remember, also. And I think it's along the same lines. It it accentuated the rock and roll talent. It accentuated this guy as a celebrity, a mus a musician, but a celebrity. Of course, this thriller record helped with that too. And he was such a mysterious guy, he was so quiet, he was so to himself. Um yeah, I think that's right on there. That's a great call.
SPEAKER_03:You brought up one you brought up one earlier that you know we're still talking about Woodstock 60 years later. Um to me, that's you know, it's more than 60 years. Uh that's insane. Like, you know, it was it's a good concert, no doubt about it. But I mean, we still talk about it to this day.
SPEAKER_01:Uh we totally do. And that's let's look at the the uh imitation is the best form of flattery, right? How many we I know there's been at least one other Woodstock they tried to put together. How about all the other festivals?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I was gonna say every music festival you can think of is is uh that's what I mean, Woodstock was the first.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. And I'm thinking uh down in your neck of the woods, panic just widespread panic just played last weekend in Savannah. Yes, if you've been to a panic show or a fish show uh or a dead show, you see remnants of what Woodstock was uh in those concerts as well, those one-off uh I almost said single sign-on, those one-off concerts that aren't festivals. So Woodstock has had a huge, huge impact and influence that's still very, very visible even six almost 60 years later.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and you know, every single music festival I've ever been, I've ever been to kind of ends the same way. Uh, you know, you can't you can't get enough drinks or drugs, there's a lot of mud. Uh, you know, you're just wandering around trying to find your friends, somebody's dead. Like it's it's all the same thing over and over again. Very little personal hygiene. It's a really good time, though. It's very fun. I don't I don't do it as much now, but back in the day, you know?
SPEAKER_01:It's awesome. Uh Music Midtown, I mean, that's that that didn't quite have. I mean, it did. It was a huge show, but it didn't quite have, and it's it's still going on, but it didn't have quite the the impact and the the celebrity shine to it that say La Lapalooza had or Little Affair or all these others, but that's another one. Same kind of thing. Go ahead. I was gonna say, you see Woodstock even today. It may not be Woodstock, it may not be the you know, in well, it is in the middle of I mean, Coachella, Bonaroo, Bonaroo's literally in a f at a farm.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's all the same. Um yeah, I mean, look to all the perfect album siders out there that are listening. If is there's something that we're forgetting, because we're we're doing this off the cuff. Are there huge events in the history of rock music that that really catapulted rock into uh our conscience for lack of a better word? That we are forgetting. Uh on Twitter or X, we're at perfect album Sid, uh, let us know. Uh, or shoot us an email, whatever you got to do. But I'm sure there's a few that we're forgetting. Or call Steve at home. He loves that. I'll give you my especially late at night Eastern. My kids like that.
SPEAKER_01:Side B. Oh, now I'm nervous. Side B. All the cards until just now.
SPEAKER_03:I want you to go back about 30 or 40 episodes, and we were doing a uh we did an episode on the music of Athens, Georgia. Speaking of Athens, Georgia again, uh, and we had a gentleman by the name of Mike Winger on the show, who was the lead singer of Dayroom. Do you remember this? And he talked about playing, you know, 250 nights a year uh while on tour. But he said, you know, for all the years that they played together, he's like, you know, we probably only stayed in a hotel 25 times. They always ended up on somebody's couch or staying at somebody's house and wherever they were playing. And so I started thinking about that. And I'm like, okay, wend them. I want you to look back at music, you know, rock, rock bands, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, whatever. And I'm gonna throw out some bands, and you let me know. Number one, would they be good house guests? Would you allow them to stay at your house? You've got a wife, you have children, as do I. Can this band crash at your house the night of the gig?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I before I I love this. I'm really excited and kind of relieved that you weren't asking me to like, you know, do chemical equations or something.
SPEAKER_03:Uh nothing like that.
SPEAKER_01:You simply have to make a decision. But I can't use I have to be careful about whether I'm going heart or head on this because you may say X band, and I may say, of course, they're they're one of my favorite bands ever. Of course I'm gonna let them in. Right? I like I'm staying away from that. I don't know. I mean uh anything goes.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, look, that's all you had to say. Oh okay, Motley Crue. Does Motley Crue get to stay at Wyndham's house? Okay, and they're and we're talking heyday. Yeah, yeah, we're talking Motley Crue 1986. Okay, no Theater of Pain tour.
SPEAKER_01:Nope. They uh because I would probably need to bunk with them starting the next day because my wife would kick me out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, there would be a motorcycle and a goat in your living room, and you wouldn't know which one it was okay to ride. I mean, like shit would get weird. You know what I'm saying?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, no, I wouldn't I I I love their music and I love the that's a good thing. The Eagles, yes.
SPEAKER_03:The Eagles, I think so. I mean, there would be a lot of fighting. It'd be tame. I mean, Henry would all be able to do it. Their own couch, you know, they wouldn't share anything, they wouldn't talk, at least not to each other. Don Henley would demand the master bedroom. Yeah, that's that this is the kind of thing that we gotta think about. So the Eagles, they they get to stay at your house, although it might be uncomfortable for a lot of us.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so it's one, it's the score is one to one. Motley Crue, no, Eagles, yes.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, well, let's talk about some of your favorite bands. Led Zeppelin.
SPEAKER_01:In their payday, 1973, Led Zeppelin. Yes. I I'd I'd pay I'd pay the price. And I I yes.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not interested in having hobbits and live animals and candles and no, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, that's that's with big sleeves. That's that's not gonna happen at my house. Okay, I'm in on that one. Okay. I I think that one's hard open. You said anything goes, so yeah. I mean, I I just think you're you're you're really thinking with heart, not head. I there's no way you let uh 1973 led Zeppelin into your house. There's no way. None. I disagree.
SPEAKER_01:I think the door, I think we are we're a house of inclusion. We are a house that the door is always open. Um we'd have to have a serious family meeting before they before they they knocked on the door andor kicked it over or drove through it.
SPEAKER_03:One of the things that we're gonna do is not speaking of knocking on the door, guns and roses. Uh 1988, 1988, appetite for destruction, 87.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they're fine. Guns and roses. Each of them just got their first multi-million dollar check.
SPEAKER_03:Um, no, the answer is no. Of course you wouldn't. I mean, the the the amount of heroin and Axel wouldn't show up until you know one in the morning anyway. It's just it's it's a no-go.
SPEAKER_01:I I'm waiting for the Burt Baccarac, uh, Liberace, um, Barry Manilo portion of your suggestions to that's not nearly as fun.
SPEAKER_03:Z Z Top.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:The three men from Z Z Top. Yes. Can you imagine the amount of hair that would be in your shower drain? Think about those beards. My God.
SPEAKER_01:And I I I'll tell you, it's a curiosity thing. Do they sleep in sunglasses? Beautiful.
SPEAKER_03:Do they braid their beards at night? We don't know. Yeah, do they wear hairnets? Do they poison?
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah. I'm okay with that. Um, heyday, I know Brett Michaels was wild. Um CC Deville. Uh yes, a lot of drug use, a lot of drugs.
SPEAKER_03:I I I I take that risk regardless. I mean, there's gonna be a lot of scantily clad women in your house that come along with them. That probably just happens at a poison concert, I would assume. Is is is the Mizes gonna be okay with this?
SPEAKER_01:And ironically, it happens at my house all the time. Wow. So wow, that's that's outstanding. Yeah, I mean, yes, I'd go poison because I feel like I'm saying no to a lot.
SPEAKER_03:Um I mean, you're a grown man, of course you say no a lot. You have children. Yeah, you can't just let rock stars into your house. The the amount of Aqua Net hairspray would be dangerous. I mean, the housekeeper.
SPEAKER_01:Foundation and rouge and lipstick and mascara, uh, yes, all of that. They would take over the bathroom.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. It'd be a little it'd be a little weird, but they'd probably clean up after themselves and say thank you. I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, we'd there'd be a lot of poetry talk. A lot of recycling. A lot of recycling. Oh, tons of recycling. There's a positive, a lot of Ogden Nash.
SPEAKER_03:There'd probably be some political signs in your front yard, a lot of blue ones. Yeah, totally. Um how about Nirvana?
SPEAKER_01:Yes. I think I'd be a very quiet evening. I think they would sit around looking around, like, where am I? There'd be a lot of where am I faces on Nirvana in my house. How did I get here?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that would be uh that's a tough one for me. I don't know about Nirvana. Would they smoke indoors? Of course. I mean, I think they bring their habits. Whatever they do backstage is coming back to the house. Okay. No weapons, of course. No weapons. No weapons. Our lives are not in danger. The red hot chili peppers. Uh RHCP, the layman. No. Because that really would get weird. I think that'd be that'd be funky. How about nickelback?
SPEAKER_01:Uh I I oh boy, I know there's only two possible answers, but I'm right in the middle, like, eh, I I could it doesn't really matter. I could go either way. Cold play. Oh yes. The black keys.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Pearl Jam. Yes. Yeah, I guess I have no problem with Pearl Jam. I mean, they they would probably have a nice dark roast Seattle coffee. Oh, totally. They'd bring their own blankets, I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_01:I think I think it'd be very conversational. I think it'd be a very affable evening. Um I don't think it would be anything wild. I don't I don't see I don't see Pearl Jam as being wild and crazy big noisemakers when they're not playing music.
SPEAKER_03:How about the Foo Fighters? You said yes to Nirvana. Do you still say yes to the Foo Fighters? Yes, I do. Probably probably the nicest band in rock and roll. Yes, I do. Yeah. Um Nirvana would have to come first. I think so.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. Weezer? Um, yeah. I feel I put them in the same category personality-wise, affability-wise, as Pearl Jam and Foo Fighters. Maybe Nirvana. So I got no I got no problem with that.
SPEAKER_03:I already know the answer to this one before I get started. But uh Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. 100% yes. That'd be a lot of fun, I bet. They'd they'd bring a six-pack of beer that'd help you fix your fence. You know, they would do some manual tasks around the house, I think.
SPEAKER_01:I to yes, I think so. Uh I I think there'd be some maybe some Georgia Florida talk, some cocktail party talk.
SPEAKER_03:I recently attended that cocktail party. Good times were having. Recently. Recently, I was just there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. You saw Goodwin, Good Game.
SPEAKER_03:I did. Uh Metallica. Uh no. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. Yes. Cheryl Crow. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Notice we didn't do a lot of female-led bands in this extra.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that that poses problems. You know, you you can't you you just can't let females in the house. You know, you're married. That's right.
SPEAKER_01:They have no place here.
SPEAKER_03:Uh the black crows. Let's talk about that. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if they'd want to stay at my house because I live about ten minutes from where they grew up.
SPEAKER_03:There's probably not enough incense or scars. In your house to really satisfy them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um I wish I could remember the line from hotel ill illness. Uh well you think that business.
SPEAKER_03:Uh how about Van Halen? Uh circa David Lee Roth.
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that would be Van Halen circa Sammy Hagar. Uh yeah. Van Halen circa Gary Sharone. No, no. Just out of principle. Yeah, I think so too. Uh Def Leppard? Yes. Okay. Um, how about John Mayer? Yes. I bet that'd be a good time. He'd bring his own bottle of wine.
unknown:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he'd ride something romantic for you. AC DC. Do you have enough electricity in your house? I don't. And I would say no. You two.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Bono's a weird dude. I think it'd be an interesting evening. The killers? I don't know enough about them. I would have to say I'm sorry. Who are you? Yeah. I got it, honey. Honey, I got it. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:There's some guys on the front porch wearing suits.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know what the door barely opens, you know. Like yes.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, Oasis is on tour right now with their big comeback tour. Uh, do you let the brothers sleep on your couch?
SPEAKER_01:No, I don't. I'll tell you why, because I figure I feel that none of us, no one else in the house would sleep. There'd be too much arguing.
SPEAKER_03:I I yeah, I think that the you would need a restraining order of some kind. But you know, based on every video I've seen over the last few months, there things are going great with those two. So I don't think I would allow Oasis circa 1996, but I'd allow current Oasis, I think. They seem to be happy.
SPEAKER_01:We'll see.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, since we talked about them earlier, we've mentioned REM, we've mentioned the Black Rose. Uh, I mean, could there be a better house guest than Hootie and the Blowfish? Um, I think it would be wonderful. I think that would be a really good time. You wouldn't get into too much trouble. You'd probably play a round of golf. There'd be some very pleasant. We could talk sports. There'd be some Nickelobe Ultras handed around. Um, I think it'd probably be a good time. I think it'd be a wonderful time.
SPEAKER_01:Actually, that would be the easiest yes that I've given.
SPEAKER_03:You'd probably have to watch the South Carolina Clemson game, but other than that, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:We'd have to talk about the greatest moments in South Carolina football history, starting with the coach getting mayonnaise dumped on his head. Wow.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I didn't think that would come up today, but here we are. Um Nora Jones. Yes. Very peaceful, very slow, quiet evening. I was gonna say she'd probably fall asleep on the couch early with some meal tea.
SPEAKER_01:We would all fall asleep listening to her music because it's just pleasant, it's easy, it's great, it's wonderful.
SPEAKER_03:Uh Jimmy Buffett and the Coral Reefer band.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, plenty of plenty of corona in the cooler, plenty of lime.
SPEAKER_03:Uh last my last but not least, uh may God have mercy on his soul. Uh Ozzie Osbourne. No.
SPEAKER_01:Heyday, Ozzie Osbourne. I don't think so. We we we do a pretty good job of managing pests and ants around our home. I don't think there would be enough for him to snort on my back patio.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's that's a fine point. Well, I'll tell you what, that was my side B. I wanted to list as many rock bands as I could, see who would be allowed to stay on your couch. Um, it is funny that some of those bands are coming to Atlanta very soon, and some of them could use a place to stay. I'll give them your number. Much like you're gonna give the perfect album insiders my number. Yeah, I will be giving REMs your phone number. I wonder, I wonder how I scored there. I think I did more yes than no's, which you did a lot more yes than I was expecting. Um, you know, maybe I'm just a private person. I I don't want all these people in my home. I barely want my own friends in my home, yet alone members of Oasis. I don't feel like you want me in your home. So yeah. I got here's a true story for everybody listening. I've never once stepped foot into Wyndham's house. Not once in all the years I have known you. Have you ever said, hey, why don't you come on in and take a look at my living room? Never happened.
SPEAKER_01:I need to do that. I we're not the most hospitable people. You've been to multiple of my homes. I have been to multiple of your homes.
SPEAKER_03:I've been to your I've been to other members of your family's homes. That's what I'm saying. What what is it that you're I mean, you would be willing to let the guys from Weezer in, but I'm not allowed in.
SPEAKER_01:And I don't mind. Oh my god. Like they did in Seattle.
SPEAKER_03:How about fish? You mentioned fish, a different kind of fish. PH asking about yes, yeah, a lot of drugs. Uh Dave Matthews band would probably be a pretty good time.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I have played Spy Hunter video game with uh Carter Beaufort, so yeah, I know that doesn't count, but I would say yes. Okay. I know his wife's family, so we'd have we'd have some common ground to talk about.
SPEAKER_03:Uh dream so real.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, they played my birthday party.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I remember. Look, that's all I had. I just wanted to see uh how open you would be to rock stars in your house, and it sounds like you're a fairly open person, and I commend you on that. I am looking forward to my own invitation, uh, as I will be coming to Atlanta for the holidays a few times. I'd expect a spot on your couch. Knowing full well that you will let you know Jack White sleep on your couch and his girlfriend slash sister.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, I you you're knowing full well that I would let Guar uh sleep on my couch before I would uh allow them. Uh before I would allow you on my couch. Southern Wind, which was uh my band. Yes, they've slept on my couch.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I played in a band called the Well Drinkers, and uh, we weren't even allowed in our own home, and we all lived together. It was it was debauchery at its finest. Uh question for you. Not even a question so much as it is. Are you gonna be ready for our next episode of the perfect album side podcast where we discuss the music, the perfect album side? We build, we create, we sculpt the perfect album side of the year 2011. I will be ready. When the bell rings, I'm ready. You know that. I know, I know. Can you can you name a single song right now from the year 2011 off the top of your head? I can't.
SPEAKER_01:Um uh Adele.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, is that right? Uh Rolling in the Deep? Is that is that 2011? We think so. I think so. I'm thinking business for nothing, kids.
SPEAKER_01:Forget you, CeeLo Green. Oh was around there.
SPEAKER_03:That sounds right. Okay. Um I promise you, I'm I'd be willing to bet all the money in my wallet, which is about$26, uh, that one of those two songs makes it on the perfect album side.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I think you're I think you're right. CeeLo Green. CeeLo Green. Yeah, I knew it. There's I think there's some good ones. Uh I need to do some research. I have those. I hope I'm right with those. I may not be right, but I'm I can't be that far off.
SPEAKER_03:Probably not. All right, we got some good things happening. The the perfect album side of 2011 will be our next episode. I I think like a week out, or for those of you that are binging, tomorrow, if you know what I mean. Uh we've got our our hundredth episode coming up, and I don't know, 2027 was probably the time we'll get to that one. And then uh speaking of KISS, I don't want to give too much away, but I think there's something on the horizon uh with KISS. I think we're gonna rock and roll all night. Oh my god. Uh Beth, I hear you calling. That's a good one. Can't get home right now. Uh hey, man, great to see you. You didn't ask me if KISS would be welcome in my home. Would please, if Kiss isn't welcome in your home, uh, we got problems. Of course they're welcome in your home.
SPEAKER_01:They're welcome in my home. I would have them sign my brother's vinyl copy of Destroyer, which is the scariest, speaking of Halloween, which we weren't, but recently Halloween, scariest album cover in history.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I I you know how much I love pinball machines. I would like to play the KISS pinball machine with the boys from Kiss. Oh, that would be amazing. Do you still have those pinball machines? No, no. Long story. We can't talk about it.
SPEAKER_01:I do remember you. Speaking of KISS, uh, shit. Um New York Groove, man. New York Groove, give that a listen. Uh yeah, I mean, what a legend. Uh just uh uh, yeah. It's sad.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like every time that you know, because we go for a few weeks or a month or something without doing an episode of the perfect album side podcast, we get back on. Somebody big has died. And it's like every time now. And I like this show to turn into the obituary section. You turn to the perfect album side to find out who died. Let's not have that happen.
SPEAKER_01:Rock and roll obituary. That's a good podcast, right there. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, who is you've got four original members of KISS. I know we're trying to get we're trying to get out of here. You've got four original members, Ace, Peter, Chris, Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley. Nice. Who are who are number one? Who's your favorite makeup KISS guy? Who's got the best makeup?
SPEAKER_03:Uh Paul Stanley, of course. Starman.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, really? Just the okay. I liked Peter Chris, the cat. I'm not a cat guy, but I like the spaceman Ace Freely. I thought that was cool. Gene Simmons was the scariest, please. Everyone knows that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Ace Freely with the with the pyrotechnics coming out of the the end of the guitar. I mean, nothing is cooler than that.
SPEAKER_01:Nothing is cooler.
SPEAKER_03:Who's the most underrated member of that band? Well, I mean, the the three that we've talked about, uh, Paul, Gene, uh, and and Ace Freely. I mean, those guys are on a different level, so it has to be Peter Chris.
SPEAKER_01:Are you saying that because you're a drummer?
SPEAKER_03:No. None of them are overrated. I mean, or you know, underrated. They're all it's fucking kiss. I mean, there's four of them. That's it.
SPEAKER_01:Well, they shout, they shouted out loud. Uh I always thought Gene Simmons was the guy that got the most attention. I thought Paul Stanley was probably the most consistent. You know, he Paul Stanley's the same guy today as he was in 1975.
SPEAKER_03:Well, remember, remember what we talked about in episode 23, the the uh the Folgers Crystals uh coffee commercial with Paul Stanley, where he turns into What are you doing this? I mean, good God almighty. That is the most bizarre commercial I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_01:You know, he's in those, he's in those workday commercials. Great, great.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I'll tell you what, I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_01:I I think we're just dragging it on that one.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna I'm gonna go. Uh look, I have enjoyed this good perfect album side single, uh, side a monumental moments that that uh catalyst uh rock music into the the forefront of our consciousness. And who would you let sleep on your couch? Good topics today.
SPEAKER_01:If you had told me, hey, my I'm just gonna give you a heads up. My my topic, my side B is gonna be who who would you let sleep on your couch? I would have been like, what are you talking about? No, I got it right.
SPEAKER_03:We got it right. We got it right. We always do. Episode 90. It's not our first time, kids. Uh, let's put the X in stacks. Good to see you, my man.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, let's not do that, but great to see you.
